I just had to drop these links at the expense of a separate entry, for them.

http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/archive/2004/Jun-08.html

http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/archive/2004/May-31.html

(The Marcelo in the last picture on this entry is Marcelo Tosatti – Maintainer of the Linux kernel)

There are reasons why many of my friends who work non Linux technologies are generally treat work on Linux as user hostile and generally immature. I personally think that while the majority of the Linux crowd may have their head in the clouds, the serious programmers are the same sort of the free style systems hackers that we idealize – despite the difference in technologies. I appreciate these folk for their spirit and sometimes for sheer smartness.